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Updating of support policy inactive product user pruning and expiry of old version of AFT8

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A Quick Note to Update on Changes of Policy

This is a win-win model for traders with a winning mindset! From time to time, we have to assess, adapt, and evolve, as will our products. To ensure the best quality of service and maintain a sustainable support structure, we are updating our support, Discord usage, and AFT8 version policy.

1. Challenges to Address

1.1 Support Overhead Black Hole: Win-Lose

Recently, we’ve faced significant challenges with users who, despite our generous time investment and comprehensive support, have not engaged in a win-win partnership. Many have pursued personal quests that deviate from our step-by-step baseline systems Zero To Hero process, which is great for self-assisted off-piste, but requires a constant support overhead. This overhead leads to substantial lost time and resources, and delays in coding and releases. This is no longer a tenable support model. We must focus on the turnkey Zero To Hero path and let the freemium automated traders go their way self-assisted. The structured Zero To Hero way for the VIP members worked great, so the support policy will focus on winners and the winning way and those who contribute; a win-win for all.

1.2 Discord Spammers and Scammers

Additionally, we’ve encountered issues with spammers and scammers, malicious actors in Discord seeking to defraud traders or “steal” business and sell services under pretense and impersonation. To prevent bad actors from joining or getting a foothold, some pretend to be traders and free trialists and are enacting campaigns on the members in DM. Vendors, Ponzi scheme operators, crooks, and thieves prey on people’s financial aspirations and dreams. We are taking stringent measures in Discord as a result, so patience may be required as the dust settles.

1.3 AFT Old Versions Used to Dodge Licensing

Some traders, let’s give them the benefit of the doubt due to a lack of communication perhaps, are still using outdated versions of our software and have not updated to licensed versions for trading live or getting funded. They have yet to contribute or support us, make a referral, or even a review for their years of free usage.

Solutions for the Challenges

These challenges, combined with the need to focus our efforts on genuine users who value our tools and support, have led us to adapt our policies. Our goal is to foster a community of dedicated traders who are committed to success and collaboration, ensuring that we can continue to provide top-tier service and create win-win scenarios for everyone involved. Changes are now in force as below:

2.1 Support Levels and Model

  • Free trials/VIP – access all groups + interactive support focus on Zero To Hero
  • Free users – read-only self-assisted support + help desk for installation and troubleshooting

2.2 Discord Inactive Product User Pruning

Inactive product users will be removed by ATS Bot from Discord groups. Users not logged into AFT or AWT and actively using will be assumed inactive, regardless of VIP or Freemium status.

  • 150 user accounts have already been removed by ATS Bot. Traders can rejoin as explained in the article below.
  • Note VIP users are affected too! Some VIP users are attending Discord but are not actively logged into AWT or AFT, maybe just coasting in sim mode, so they are seen by the bot as inactive. Hence this news update and info:
  • VIP users who are within renewal dates of subscriptions will not be pruned as we fix that module and can rejoin via the Discord Group links.
  • ATS Discord Groups inactive user pruning

2.3 AFT8 Old Versions Expiry

Old versions of AFT8 will expire and self-uninstall over time. Traders using them for free live trading and free evaluation trading to avoid a subscription need not panic. You can use the Get Funded Accelerator and save 80% and get a summer deal! See here for details: AFT8 Pricing

  • This could be due to a lack of communication with a handful of traders, and we are now addressing it.
  • N.B: Polite update notices will be sent out to all, and then in a window of time, the older versions will expire, stop working, and self-uninstall. Please update to the current versions to avoid complications.
  • AFT8 Downloads

Trading and Winning Mindset

We can only do what is right. Mistakes, challenges, bad actors, and so on will be plenty along the way. Wins and losses are fine; let them happen. It’s great! Grist for the mill! We are thankful for the experiences as we learn and move higher. Our focus should be on stoic, pragmatic trading and development, not wasting time on other matters. Emotional reactions are not required. Mistakes and challenges are opportunities to level up our game!

New Workspace Installer no5 for NinjaTrader Fully Automated Futures Trading Turnkey baseline algos

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Hybrid Pure Fully Automated Trading – 100% Automatic Futures Trading

In response to high demand, announcing AFT Algo Trading System baselines designed specifically for pure algorithmic trading with no charts, plus hybrid integrated charts & algorithmic multiple workspaces.


AFT fully automated turnkey workspace AFT8-Algos-BaseLine-004 Pure algo Mix of Algos micro and emini futures

100% fully automated turnkey workspace AFT8-Algos-BaseLine-004, a mix of Algos micro and emini futures – ready to trade risk-free on sim/demo accounts!

Workspaces 5 Installer for VIP and Free Trialists


Turnkey workspace fully automated futures trading algo baselines

Download Workspace 5 for VIP traders and free trialists:
https://account.algotradingsystems.net/Secure/Downloads

Purpose of BaseLine Algo Systems

Educational: This is for sim/demo trading and allows a trader to tweak a copy of the baseline algos to their trading style and compare back to the running baseline algos stats, etc. It runs fully automated on a server in sim/demo mode, providing baseline statistics and trading data. Traders should save a copy of algorithm settings, make adjustments, and compare results against these baselines. Once configured, the system operates 24/7 on a server with NinjaTrader connected; no license is required in NT8 sim/demo modes.

Installation and setup take just one minute. Workspace 5 can be installed immediately, but accounts will need to be added within the NinjaTrader control center.

Assessment: Weekly and monthly assessments ensure optimal performance—avoid live trading prematurely to mitigate recency bias!

Time to Market: A minimum evaluation period of 3 months to 1 year is advisable for fully automated trading with the settings and variants a trader has created to suit their trading plan and are tested.

AFT8 Workspaces #5

Fully Automated Algo Trading Baselines for NT8

  • AFT8-Algos-BaseLine-001 – Pure Algo DSFG/WSFG
  • AFT8-Algos-BaseLine-002 – AWT Hybrid Algo + Charts
  • AFT8-Algos-BaseLine-003 – MTF Hybrid Algo + Charts
  • AFT8-Algos-BaseLine-004 – Pure Algo Mix of Algos Micro + Emini

Accounts List for Algo Trading Baseline Workspace No. 5

  • SimAlgoSignalTraderDSFG
  • SimAlgoSignalTraderCryptos
  • SimAlgoSignalTraderWSFG
  • SimAlgoSignalTraderEnergy
  • SimAlgoSignalTraderDSFG-Gap
  • SimAFT-TrendTraderAWT-001

These accounts should be added to NinjaTrader in Multi Provider Mode. For example, NT8 will prefix the account with “Sim” for SimAlgoSignalTraderDSFG; add AlgoSignalTraderDSFG.

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NinjaTrader fully automated futures trading or hybrid algo trading?

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Hybrid AFT Trading or Pure AFT Fully Automated?

How to decide which model to choose for your trading success?

Hybrid Futures Trading: Man + Machine

Session breakout workspace

The fastest and easiest way to get funded and start trading with the best profits and least drawdown. Achieve the best control and hit a small target! Traders learn the level of automation to suit their plan, typically 50% to 80% automated. Smallest risk capital of 25K is acceptable. AFT Workspaces 1 to 4 guide you from zero to hero in Discord.

Hybrid Trading Time to Market

  • This is the fast track to success with day trading! It can be done in 1 week to 1 month, though most take 1 to 3 months, and some take 1 year or more. That’s okay; it’s 100% free, and you can go at your own pace!

Pure 100% Fully Automated Trading

NinjaTrader fully automated trading with advanced hybrid controls for algo entry and exit execution

Yes, it can be done, but note that this is the hardest and longest way to trade. Generally, it is not viable or permitted for prop firm trading, offering the least control over profits and drawdown. It takes 3 months for a veteran already successful, to 1 year or more for a new trader still on the success quest. Medium to long-term goals are essential. Hit very large, easy targets far off; asset stream diversification is key. Swing trading is really the only way to start, with large risk capital of 100 to 250K being acceptable. AFT Workspaces 5: put workspace 1 on a server and leave it for 1 month. Practice how to stop and start, and go from there. Create variants of the baselines and test and compare back.

Pure Algo Trading Time to Market

  • There are no shortcuts when done right!
  • 1 to 3 years is a realistic time to focus on mastering and tweaking a system that suits a trader.

For Both Traders’ Journeys: Hybrid or Pure Algo Trading

7-day Free Trial with Full Feature Access! Self-assisted and interactive support is provided when required. Free forever Freemium for sim/demo trading! Go at your own pace! For the fastest learning, traders begin with our “Zero to Hero” program to methodically navigate through the control set stages. This can be leveraged for hybrid and pure fully automated trading.

Alternate Routes for Traders Who Want Fully Automated Trading

Some links here for you to consider for your trading journey decisions. We do not earn from these links or endorse them; this is for informational purposes to see what is out there, the cost, and so on. Check out the stats and costs of these parties and analyze the pros and cons.

The Advantage Here:

Your stats and settings are your own. There is no sales gimmick here; no leap of faith required. Skill, commitment, and time are the costs. You have control of your trading destiny. As a self-directed trader using AFT, it’s 100% free forever on sim, as it really takes a whole lot of time. There is no shortcut; time and learning to be a pro are required! Some of our traders do it and are in years 1 and 3, being patient and working towards the end goal of a small fund of their own with transparent systems—no smoke and mirrors! Do they have drawdowns? Yes, and they have a plan in place and use diversified asset streams to minimize risk and drawdowns.

AFT8 update version 20240611 license hotfixes and updates

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AFT v20240611 Hot Fixes for NinjaTrader Automated Trading


AFT8 Algos BaseLine 003 Turnkey Workspace

AFT8 Algos BaseLine 003 Turnkey Workspace

AFT8 version 2024 is now released and ready for download or update from the popup notices.

AFT8 Updater

AFT8 Updater popup can be used to install.

https://algotradingsystems.net/Downloads

Release Notes

  1. AFT8 License modes are enforced – real-time indicator plots will become invisible, signals and alerts disabled, algo entry and trade manager automation disabled.
  2. AFT8 can now be installed with no licenses or desktop apps and works with no license notifications for Sim, NT Demo, replay non-live trading, non-prop firm modes.
  3. Apex Prop Firm and Bulenox are supported for Evaluation trading for the Get Funded Accelerator save 80% + an additional promo code on top!
    1. For all other modes of prop firm or live trading, a license is required.
  4. Tracing and error message logging are now separated and accessible in the NinjaTrader Trace folder “\Documents\NinjaTrader 8\trace”.
  5. NinjaTrader Alert Window “AFT8 License Alert” will pop up once for each NinjaTrader session if licenses are required.
  6. AFT8 License Alerts details notes will be saved to the folder “\Documents\AlgoFuturesTrader\Docs” and pop up in a default web browser.
  7. AFT8 Code: Core optimization and error handling routines have been refactored for best speed, reliability, and local trace/error reporting.
  8. Indicators
    1. Indicator: Alpha PSAR – our interpretation of the PSAR has a new parameter “Trend Mode” added which allows a variant method for trend reversal calculation – this looks super awesome, check it out!
    2. Indicator: Dynamic Trend – removes some parameters and adds in PSAR Template for the secondary trend mode via settings template – create a PSAR template and use it in the Dynamic Trend for ease.
    3. Indicator: Generic Signals:
      1. New Rule 20: “Evolving Market Profile” Crossover on the Session Fib Grid Profile: Year, Month, Week, and Day – you need to switch on Market Profile Mode in the FibGrid.
      2. Fixes to Trade Signal Mode 1 – count of rules as a percentage bias.
      3. Fixes to Rule 19 – SFG-VWAP Crossover.
  9. AFT Workspaces are all available on day 1 of signup and a trader can go at their own pace and decide which one to install when they are ready.
  10. AFT VIP workspaces are provided in the Installer AFT Workspaces no4 and will sync updates to the local machine for VIP.
    1. BaseLine Futures Fully Automated Trading Systems “AFT8-Algos-BaseLine-004” has no charts at all, only the Algo Entry and Exits running.
    2. AFT8-Algos-BaseLine-003 has charts with rotating tabs the same as the algo server and a handful of indices on session breakout.
  11. Note: For Lifetime Owners who do not run the maintenance, the full feature of Trade Management will still work for live account trading. The Algo Entry Module will require renewal for live account trading and prop firm trading.

Get funded Accelerator for NinjaTrader hybrid automated trading save 80% forever on evaluation trading

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As of June 2024, AlgoFuturesTrader is free for simulation, replay, backtesting, and NinjaTrader demo account trading. A license will be required for trading non-approved prop firm evaluation accounts. For more details, view: Notice From June 2024 AFT is free for sim, replay and NinjaTrader demo account trading only paid for live and prop firm trading

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ATS Pricing 2024 Reduced


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The great news is that evaluation trading for Apex and Bulenox Rithmic trading accounts will be possible with an 80% saving off the list prices!

Over time, we aim to add more providers to this list and to add Tradovate accounts. This will depend on the ability to detect evaluation accounts and differentiate from live and performance accounts, so keep in contact for news on this.
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21 Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Futures Traders

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  1. I want a trading system that performs well in all market cycles. (Holy Grail unicorn hunter – learn when to trade with a system and when not to, or implement diversified asset streams.)
  2. A fully automated robot can trade my prop firm account to get funded and stay funded. (BS alert! Prop firms mostly do not allow robots, and their rules are so tight this is 99% likely to fail.)
  3. The system stats look great; I will buy it as I have found the best system and will be a winner. (Victim of your financial aspirations – only believe the facts and evidence firsthand of what it does with you as the driver.)
  4. I want money, and trading is the best way to get it. If I buy a robot to do it for me, I can be rich. (Get a job; you are a loser already – do not trade for money, trade with a passion for the love of trading!)
  5. I need to trade all day; more is more. (We are taught at school and work to do more – in trading, less is more – FOMO, Fear, and Greed.)
  6. I will watch the market all day and all night if I have to learn an edge. (Just watch and learn the hours you are going to trade – focus on your trade session and trade plan rules.)
  7. If I trade more instruments, I will do better and make more money. (Better to focus on one or at most a few, two to three to start.)
  8. I am a bad discretionary trader, so a robot will cure my problem. (No, cure your problem first as it will still manifest in auto trading. 99% fail at auto trading who rush it.)
  9. I have a dream; I want this more than anything, so that means I will be successful. (Then it means too much – stop caring about money and honey – focus on getting good and enjoying the game; the rest will follow.)
  10. I will trade the market economic news announcement; results in a good means buy and bad means sell. (No, it doesn’t – market catalysts can be a boost to trading; your systematic rules will enter long or short.)
  11. The market sees me and knows where my stops are; it makes me lose; this is a war; I am cannon fodder. (This is trader vanity – focus on the system and take care not to leave stops around obvious levels.)
  12. I don’t need to understand the system in automated trading. (If you learn the game of golf and then use a golf robot, you will do far better.)
  13. I don’t need to take stats or keep a diary in automated trading. (You need to know when it is winning and why and when it’s losing and why – you can adjust your trade plan settings based on this info.)
  14. I should attend a large group in Discord to learn from people. (In the valley of the blind, the one-eyed man is king! 99% is the blind leading the blind over the cliff or to a peak with each market phase.)
  15. I can leave a system on forever and not monitor, attend, or pause it. (Market price news shocks, internet & PC faults occur! Monitor it!)
  16. The system started to lose; the vendor is a fraud, or the system is broken. (Systems all will have a drawdown period; you should know this inside out before trying on live.)
  17. Fully automated means no work and no interaction, just set-and-forget trading and go play golf. (Around about 90% fully auto with 10% manual interaction due to news, rollovers, and price exposure, etc., is about the right level for pro mode auto for full automation – there is a lot of ongoing work for auto trading – performance monitoring, optimization, preparation, or R&D.)
  18. These system stats are great; I can be confident of winning in the future as it has proven in the past. (Luck, curve fitting, data sample, market shifts, slippage, errors, human interaction – there is NO guarantee.)
  19. I am a prop firm trader; I mirror 20 accounts; I made 100K on NQ in the last month; now I am ready for live cash trading. (Slippage, broker limits, real cash margin, and real pressure, real risk are very different; you will probably blow up in a day.)
  20. I trade manually and win, so I know if I automate my trading, it will be a winner. (No, in most cases, this is not the result at all; you would need to trade like a robot, then automate it.)
  21. The best trading software, settings, and trade plan are the ones I see others doing well with. (No, the best system and best stats are what you do with a system over time via direct hands-on experience.)

There are many others, but you get the gist…!

Trading is an art and skill, not an exact science. Anyone who sells you the easy dream or this BS above is either delusional, chasing a pipe dream, or a malign Machiavellian. Sadly, most vendors, brokers, coaches, and influencers are the latter, knowingly taking advantage of your financial aspirations and desperations! Statistically, the facts are no secret; day trading is, for 80% of people, the worst way to make money compared to getting a proper job and career. You never know if the market will be in a winning phase and what you will win or lose from week to month. It takes a whole lot of money and time to reach this pinnacle of trading for a living. Yes, you can be a winner, but you have to be in the correct winning mindset and environment to do it, alongside an income, something that provides stability and risk capital, or get funded to trade via a prop firm, or you are guaranteed to lose and burn! No matter how good the system is, due to psychology!

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